Sometimes the subject matter of OCD is germs. Thus, as with most things in life, we must avoid sinful thoughts, but we should also be careful to avoid the sin of unbelief that ultimately results from sinful thoughts. For example, if you have intrusive thoughts about losing control and stabbing someone with a knife, you may be asked to touch a knife or hold a knife to your therapists back. I know that I want the Holy Spirit to be with me. But the risk to her eternal welfare seems too great. It has been happening to me for years and I have been in anxiety and fear over this to the point that I thought I would instantly die because of it.I am so happy to finally see that I am not alone that there is hope.Please stay strong and remember that God loves you always as do myself and your other brothers and sisters in Christ . Like yes. The disciple Peter cut off a man's ear. I fear he has abandoned me but I get upset and fearful to the point I get physically ill and keep going over it and over it. I was still getting this here and there recently, then I was prayed over at church recently and then I ran across this article. And my Heavenly Father knows my heart and my intentions !! Kind David and others had many times when they felt that God wasn't with them. Do not look for thunder to fall from the sky. The first route is to analyze passages that talk about blasphemy as ego-syntonic, chosen, willful behavior. Sometimes it can be very difficult to understand our own intentions. 4. About this attitude of looking for change and trying to get back to God. Wayne Dyer speaks about the Bible and Jesus teachings and quite a bit about God. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. I had focused so much on the blaspheming part that I forgot (or never knew/realized in the first place) that it also said speaking against the Holy Spirit is unforgivable. Hi. I hate this and pray and pray for God to open my eyes of my heart to all of His truth again. He hasn't for all of these years and I don't know my. It has gotten the point now where I believe that I am thinking these thoughts willfully. I'm afraid I've messed up my life so badly there's no hope. I drifted in and out of the church for a number of years and had a sexual relationship during that time, which I quickly ended when I remembered the Hebrews verses. I sometimes get evil thoughts about God what I mean is sexual thoughts about God. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. However, the EXTENT to which you are experiencing this fear is predominantly an OCD thing, not a faith thing. Glad it could be helpful for you. Please dont be afraid. Hiya thank god for the intercession through you in writing this article ,youve helped so many brothers and sisters in Christ including me ,praise be to his ,so many fears and doubts and anxiety has been calmed and stilled , however I still need advice on this ,I was at a church meeting ,I was really feeling the holy spirits presence within the meeting however when I asked the leader of the meeting to pray for Jesus to deliver me from intrusive unwanted thoughts and fear of blasphemy thoughts ,as the man started praying for me I had one of them thoughts thinking this is fake ,which has since made me feel worse ,is this blasphemy ? You just have to wait for it. I try hard to live right and please God, that it's affecting me in a bad way. So dont worry about blaspheming, focus instead on building and growing your relationship with Christ as the Holy Spirit helps you to do that. a few years ago I went through a severe depression, and was experiencing this before and during the depression. I also was laughing when he was saying blasphemy combined with other swear words and felt bad and kept telling him to stop and told him I know he has tourettes and its hard to control it but yeah. Think of all the reasons people came to Jesus. These intrusive thoughts are not your true heart, God knows your true heart for Him. This post is a blessing and it encourages me to keep going. Why did I have that blasphemous thought? These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. Scientists suggest that about 50% of OCD is biological and other half is environmental. Seeking companionship/love isn't wrong but the way we go about it sometimes is. I feel as if he has let me go. To take the Lords name in vain is when you do not show proper reverence for who God is, which is similar to blasphemy. Think about it this way, God is infinitely powerful and great. Its possible to get sticky, unwanted thoughts about God, Buddha, the president, your child, your dog, your kitchen knives, your socks, etc. The king was very interested in seeing Jesus because he was eager to have a miracle performed. Amirrah, thankfully, nowhere in the Bible does it tell us to serve God with our feelings. It is God who gave us desire for companionship. Lean on this verse even when you feel rejected. Read books, listen to sermons/teaching that speak on the Love, Grace, and Mercy of God. It doesnt talk about something so modern and specific as exposure therapy. First of all, step one will be difficult to achieve because of what you have already noted: trying to fight a thought will always backfire. Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter;but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnationbecause theysaid, He has an unclean spirit.. Which is really bad. However, part of the equation is also your own inner beliefs and life experiences (yep, its the nature-nurture balancing act in OCD, we have both). Can I do that with my brain? They attempted to explain away His supernatural miracles by claiming He was empowered by a devil or unclean spirit. People arent inspiredthe BIBLE is inspired. But maybe those doubts have some truth to them. Well just this week I have been doing fantastic. If you are having struggles, need support in a particular area that you aren't finding a specific recovery area forum, you may find the General Struggles forum a great place to post. Generally, there are three main disorders that can cause intrusive thoughts: Within the broader context of psychotherapy, intrusive thoughts are typically treated with Exposure and Response Prevention Therapy (ERP). At one point in my life I did say something really negative towards Jesus (which I regret now).. these thoughts have subsided lately but from time to time they pop up and keep going. They might be there asking for your attention, but determine to keep putting one foot in front of the other, engaging with your daily responsibilities, without getting derailed by the thought. Right now my appointments are all booked out, but hopefully Ill have some open soon. he just wanted them to get along and work together. Is this scrupulosity? Dont forget: the period of apathy happens to everyone who struggles with intrusive thoughts. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. Because I feel guilty, it must mean that I did something wrong (and thus need to spend extensive time in mental scanning and digging to figure out what I did wrong). I just feel lost. What were they doing, thinking, or saying that provoked such a response? But as long as you move on and treat the thoughts with indifference, everything will be ok.. In another passage, Jesus Christs disciples are told not to suppose evil against the Father (which could be considered thought about God) for their sakes. In terms of Dr Osborne's method, do we transfer the intrusive thought to God once off and then maintain trust as the thought returns? Intrusive thoughts are: Lets look at each of these characteristics and how it is important to finding our escape from blasphemous thoughts. Youre speaking words of wisdom. I am happy for sites like this that will give other silent sufferers hope. Pretty much 24/7. I walked away from the Lord for over seven years. (For the engaged obsessive who spends 8 hours per day in religious rituals and cant stop, I tell them to back off and do less. A big part of overcoming scrupulosity involves a recognition of what Psalm 94:11 says. I even had installed an app that made me feel good inside and because I felt I would be disrespectful to that person I rejected the word I had installed on my phone of god in the bible. The Bible is not a book about mental health treatments. What Every Christian Should Know about the Protestant Reformation. But through all this, God never leaves our side. Now Im starting to second guess if the thoughts were from me. Typically, these are people who have scrupulosity, also known as religious OCD. Sometimes my frustrations turn toward God. I just dont understand.. Well, if youll excuse me, dear brain, I really dont have time to chat, because I have so much havoc and destruction on my to-do list for today. At least I know am not alone and I hope we all get better. Don't feel anything. One night I saw a universal salvation website. I have this phrase that goes on in my mind in nicer words screw the Lord. Read scriptures about God's desire to reconcile us to Himself. Dont get me wrong studying and learning is good. God bless you all and see you in heaven! Ive had Him speak to me .. and I still question . I needed to hear this so bad! Anyways, we don't know if the Devil came to Jesus as a spirit, human, or intrusive thought but one thing we know is When the devil tempted Jesus to: 1. Thank you very much, with all the sincerity in the world. Now, what Im NOT saying is that trauma causes OCD. But bees can teach us important lessons about non-response to our OCD. We are, but He isnt. He told Eve she would be better off as the parent rather than as the child. I want Gods forgiveness and I want the Holy Spirit to work in me. I am 18 years old and I have grown up a deep thinking but also a fun loving and passionate girl. These feelings tell me nothing accurate about my spiritual life. Remember also that Jesus Himself endured some very uncomfortable feelings think about what He went through in the Garden of Gethsemane. The consent submitted will only be used for data processing originating from this website. Im so glad to hear that youve improved so much in recent days. I didnt really want to. The person with obsessive-compulsive disorder, however, is hyper-vigilant about anything that might cause danger. I pray for your mind to be released from this condition, I pray for Jesus to take this from you and I pray for peace over you in Jesus name I pray amen. Don't expect a feeling or rapid spiritual recovery. The he Jesus is referring to is the Holy Spirit. I need more advice from you please, this article was so helpful I need more please! This constitutes the U in our acronym RUMP. Heaven rejoices every time you reach out towards God, even if your hand is weak and trembling. I have had really amazing experiences with God throughout my life, but also terrible anxiety. The second route is to analyze passage that speak to the reality of blasphemous thoughts that are ego-dystonic, alien, and unwanted. I cried my eyes out in his car. But if I don't eliminate this OCD problem, I may keep worrying, obsessing about it and keep feeling anxious and stressed. The source of conviction is the Holy Spirit. Laughing at a bad or inappropriate joke happens. Like now I feel like Im upset with the Holy Spirit and I dont know why. As you get older you'll become more comfortable in your own skin and beliefs. Then I told God well, If I did the unpardonable sin please dont let me be a reprobate because I want to be used so others can be saved. I had said this to God before the woman at the church, prophesied over me. Also a very good friend of mine told me I needed to ask forgiveness for rejecting grace which was the last thing I ever wanted to do. Even still, a sinner, once converted, could confess these sins and be . (His mothers namewasShelomith the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan.) Let me summarize why this sin is unforgivable. The Bible says a Just man falls seven times and rises up again Proverbs 24:16. But that doesnt work. God understands and extends His mercy. I would get these randomly or when I would read God's word. I am now reconciled back to God and I will see these thoughts for what they are i.e. The more I try to become closer to God and unite myself to Christ the more these blasphemous thoughts would come into my mind. God has given me in site through His Word but still having difficulty. Steven, the Wonderful thing about God is that our words & thoughts may offend Him but they do not make our break Him. Its a very sweet and supportive group with amazing people who could have written your message for themselves. He took all of our burdens and battles and sins on the cross. Seeing your thoughts get worse over the last few days is most likely from focusing on these thoughts, turning them over in your mind, and worrying about what they mean and if theyre forgivable. King Jesus, you break every chain. She kept coming back and leaving me again, until I told God on the way home from church that I didn't want His salvation if that is what it was going to be like. I don't know why, suppose i have thought about that if i eat this i can wrong or (sexual thought ) with god then i pray and said that if i not eat then it is happen but some time its can be hard for me when i not fulfill the deal with god and i afraid that god will punish because i said or deal with god, i am in very trobule plesae help i love god. Silves, I understand your situation completely. He resolved to live in dependence on his Father and the Spirit's power (Luke 4:14). It will help. It is HIM doing all this for us, His children, just like a parent bears the responsibility for feeding and sheltering the child. It makes me unable to voice out my opinion about the Godhead for fear of blasphemy. Convictions, awareness. If I'd gone in there remembering/knowing that, I doubt I'd have said it! The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". I just want to say thank you for this article. He wants you to be free, just as much as he wants healing for broken legs, cancer, and depression. In another article, I talk about the OCD escalation cycle, which can often include an element of willful, desperate pseudo-agreement with our blasphemous thoughts (I say pseudo-agreement because it isnt real even though it feels like it is). Its beauty is there for all to find! Intrusive thoughts are Repetitive, Unwanted, and now we will see that they appear to have Meaning. He knows that you said mean and hateful things out of hurt. He knows your heart my friend. Occasionally I was daring God to come down and face me as a human. Im glad to hear your thoughts have been getting better. There is no asterisk next to that verse. I wanted a girlfriend, but I was too shy. Hi, Rod, I have a video about why we sometimes feel that we have given in to blasphemous thoughts. I constantly tell God I came to Him for relief not torment. But they didnt want to believe, and they willfully searched for excuses. I feel like I can't pray to God asking for forgiveness, because in order to eliminate this OCD problem, I think I have to sin. One other thing too is I constantly worry that if I dont say May the lord Jesus Christ bless you today. Or I dont talk to everybody around me about Jesus then God will be angry with me or punish me as if I am ashamed of Jesus. This obviously will trigger your anxiety to a supremely desperate pitch. There is hope for scrupulosity. But for the person who gets these thoughts while simultaneously having a deep sense of loyalty towards God, it is clearly unwanted. I know I have been diagnosed with religious OCD. Please help. How do we deal with these biological tendencies? The Holy Spirit will always give us a conscience that warns us of sins potential and will counsel us to turn away from those sinful thoughts. They argue (perhaps wrongly) that religious believers are hypocrites while they are not hypocritical in any way. I got a notebook and did the same. I then became terrified about what I had wilfully done and have been living in torment and feeling condemned and far from God since and needless to say I have been tormented by repetitive blasphemous thoughts as well for years since. Not so sure I'm happier that I can't just cast out a spirit to stop this but at least I know I'm not alone and it's not really me! Fighting back against blasphemous thoughts is a sure-fire way to get yourself stuck in an endless loop of self-analysis, doubt, and ever-rising anxiety. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. The Bible says the truth will set us free. The fear of accidentally making a deal or worshipping or selling ones soul to the devil is one of scrupulositys most common intrusive thoughts. Amen.it's just I can't get my mind off of it it's like my mind has become addicted to The fault it's like I purposely think them now out of habit the only thing that keeps me going is the fact that when the faults come or I also have intrusive speech that when it comes I don't feel happy afterwards I feel miserable but yet my body says I want them I don't know if you've ever fought intrusive speech meaning I will say my blasphemous thoughts under my breath but as in a compulsive manner of which I can't control I will try to cancel them out under my breath constantly want to say them out loud too it's a Non-Stop fight, Not only is my mind against God now but my feelings are against God and mostly the Holy Spirit although they're not mine but with the thoughts come feelings of enjoyment or that I want these thoughts when they're not there it's like I think them purposely just so they'll be there I guess I fought it for so long my mind is become addicted even feelings and then the thoughts come and obviously my depersonalization worsens afterwards and I have to hold on either I can sit or I can take an Ativan to help me it's a Non-Stop mental battle I hate feeling like I want a fault which increases them the more and makes new phrases every second come in my mind thoughts are one thing but feeling like you want them and trying to convince yourself you really don't when you feel so strongly you want them and you want them to be there mostly all against the Holy Spirit I've tried to do erp where I deliberately let it sit there and deliberately engage in the feelings of hatred that I feel and just let what come come..Don't know if you found any of that but I've been through this for years. He never changes or goes back on His word. It is the Spirit who works in the lives of unbelievers as well, testifying to the truth of who Jesus is to lead them to repentance and salvation. So I'm still stuck, it's like OCD got me captured. And nowhere is that more true than these scary verses about grieving the Holy Spirit (in context, they are not so scary). I believe God answered all my prayers during that time, but these intrusive thoughts still came up. Yeah I've dealt with this but my mind would just say Jesus name in vain and I would fight it by saying Jesus is King, but they are half hearted attempts and more a reflex to reduce the guilt I feel by it. In Psalm, King David mentioned that when he saw the prosperity of the wicked his foot almost slipped (turn from God) Psalm 73:1-2. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Hi Jamie, a little about me: I'm 19 years old and on the autistic spectrum. but I'd like to talk with someone like you about this. Manage Settings He writes. He loved the world so much, he couldnt stop loving the world. Your unkind words/thoughts don't stop Him from being God. As I started doing that, I think I opened myself up to a spirit. Will this kinds of din be forgiven. It'll take time but by faith, little by little, God will transform you from the inside out. He knows what is inside of men. You said that Christianity doesnt have the 100 percent truth. If anyone helped him, he rewarded them. i forgot about this for many years. There is sin that leads to death; and I do not say that one should pray for that.. Think of the centurion in Matthew 27 when Jesus died. Where is the faith part in me? BUT God is bigger so I will continue to speak life . Any any that is related to emotions, self-esteem, insomnia, anger, relationship dynamics due to mental health and recovery and other issues that don't fit better in another forum would be examples of topics that might go there. If that makes sense and always have felt it. Dear friend, dont give up. I also use to feel a strong sensation of preaching the gospel in which if I don't,I will feel so much condemned,I don't use to preach it because I think I will be a liar.What can I do in such situations sir? Abraham lied so he wouldn't be killed. No place of repentance, I think, means he couldnt do it. Many religions consider these ideas to be sacrilegious. Therefore, any guilty feelings that you have after this point about the past is considered false guilt. This shows that in most cases, uncontrollable blasphemous thoughts are not a theological matter or even a spiritual one, but the product of a psychological condition that is not only most unpleasant, but exceedingly unfair. ", "I curse HELL. I have had a large number of my clients come with spiritual baggage for this exact reason, which in reality these are not prophecies at all. If my bad thoughts about the Holy Spirit were intentional, could I be forgiven? As soon as I try to come back to the Lord these evil thoughts would reemerge. Oh my I have sm typos the gots I meant god , but I'm sacred my heart has been hardened the only thing that keeps me going is I believe the one who started good work will bring it to completion", I dont want to be lead astray! How can I do I still have God? And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." I have a much harder time believing saying it out loud is forgivable rather than just the thought. I constantly get intrusive thoughts about Jesus' miracles not being done by the Holy Spirit, essentially the Pharisees' blasphemy against the Spirit but these thoughts don't come willingly. What does this look like for something intangible like blasphemous thoughts? Salvation and condemnation are the result of our long-term choices, choices we make day after day. God doesnt even have to try hard to understand our thoughts. Youve noted that these thoughts began after a very traumatic spiritual experience (excommunication and shunning is probably the second worst type of spiritual trauma, after being abused by clergy). But I remember what God told me. I felt like one thought caused me to lose years of serving God. I fell into a terrible anxiety ridden deep depression. Also, read John 6:37, which says, All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. If you have come to Christ, he will "never" cast you out. I still have these thoughts. I'm scared im going to think something that will prove I was never saved in the first place. For example, you may believe that thinking about the color yellow will make something bad happen. Nevertheless, some people are able to keep their faith without doubt, while some individuals struggle with intrusive thoughts. I had been doing much better then some of it started rearing its ugly head. I got baptised a few years ago, but fell into issues, till I got saved in 2020 total overnight freedom from my alcohol dependency. When I am at church listener my to a sermon at t come up. So Im pretty sure the blasphemous thoughts are gone.

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